UB guy welshes on $4K bet

[NoSup4U]

I'd posted on 4bb but was asked to post here too:

Outrageous (if you're a poker player) story from my local casino tonight. This dude sits down next to me:



I think he's one of the UB underlings like the Poker Ho and those guys. He's been around in the mid stakes live games forever and always has all his UB garb on. He is villain in this hand.

Preflop, one of Hero's cards is exposed by the dealer and is the Kd. Like normal, it is returned and a new card is dealt to hero. This comes into play later.

Flop is JT2 and hero and UB villain get it all in. At some point one of them tells the other one he has him crushed.
UB Villain: "I'll bet you $1000 I have you beat right now."
Hero practically jumps out of his seat to accept. He confirms "I'll absolutely bet you $1000 on the side that I have you beat."
UB Villain: "I'll bet you any amount you want that I have you beat."
Hero "Any amount? $4000 then, we're betting $4000"
UB Villain confirms multiple times they're betting $4000 on the side.

Hands are flipped over, hero has JJ, UB Villain has JT.

Hero says: "You owe me $4000"
UB Villain says he isn't paying because he thought hero had the Kd in his hand. (apparently he thought the Kd just flashed enough for him to see it but that hero still had it in his hand. Which of course is another shady thing on UB villains part, to see someone's flashed card and not say anything about it, AND then get into a pot vs the guy)

Anyway, I don't know hero or villain, but it was pretty clear a bet was made and UB villain welshed on it. I hate stuff like that so I thought I'd post.

The rest of the table was 100% behind the hero. UB Villain got stacked obviously, and said he wasn't paying and there wasn't anything hero could do about it, and left and went to hit the ATM or something for more money. While he was gone, everyone was talking about how he totally owed him the money, hero guy was basically a realist and was like well that guy is a huge douche. But it was very very clear to every single person at the table that UB Villain initiated and accepted the bet, and owed the $4K

Villian eventually came back and there was a little more back and forth but everyone just ignored him the rest of the time I was there, which was only for another half hour or so.

If anyone knows or sees him, feel free to let him know in the poker world most of us consider verbal bets binding.

Mark

[Nidociv]

i think this guy is called [ name(s) removed ], plays 3/5 , buys in for minimum usually, pretty much a grinder..doesnt get involved in a lot of hands, doesn't really "gamble"

[trussdude]

I'd posted on 4bb but was asked to post here too:

What is 4bb?

[that_pope]

The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club!

[NoSup4U]

Apparently this guy's name is [name removed].

[CrazyLond]

I think I remember playing with this guy pretty frequently a few years ago when I played a lot of 5-150.  I don't remember him being particularly good but maybe he's improved.

I can't imagine trusting another casino player with an on-the-spot bet that big.

[Good guy]

I too witnessed the hand and yes it is true a bet of $4,000 was confirmed multiple time and [name removed] welched.  Not only did [name removed] welch on the bet, he actually got up after being felted and went to the ATM got more money (not much, like $300) and displayed the poor taste of returning to the table. As a member of the poker community it was appalling!  [name removed] is not welcome at my table and those who know him or see him at the tables in the future should let others know of his low character.