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Breaking Full games? A solution...

Started by Bazinga, December 24, 2010, 03:34:45 PM

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Bazinga

I witnessed the top section floor person break a solid 40/80 Hold'em game the other evening in order to start a 75/150 game( not sure if it was a mix or straight Hold'em game).
There were several players in the 40/80 game that were quite stuck and not happy at all that the game had been intentionally shut down to favor the 75/150 players.

Ive seen this happen before, though not at this level that i can recall, i see a lot of jostling by players in smaller games trying to convince players to play bigger and start a different game, that's ok IF you don't jeopardize a solid full game.

A possible solution:
Allow "Over" buttons or "over play" , essentially a game with "overs" allows players who choose to , to play at a higher limit than is posted for that particular table as long as the ONLY PLAYERS REMAINING in the current hand all agree to play at a higher limit for the remainder of that game.

So the game is 40/80 with 60/120 "overs"( the "over" limit is determined prior to the start of the game)

The game , or first betting round starts at 40/80 limit.

 Example, preflop a $40 bet is made and there are a number of callers, some who do NOT care to play "over", game remains at 40/80 level.

On the flop a 40 dollar bet is made, and it is raised to 80..three players remain and all have agreed to play "over".   On the turn card, the betting round will be at the $120 level rather than the "normal" $80 level.

There are some details about when the limit can be raised ( like raising the limit mid round) and other intricacies that can occur but that is for later discussion.

Point is, allowing "over" play may satisfy the players who want to play higher and it may help prevent the house from having to make a decision to break a full , lower limit game.

that_pope

Not sure if overs is a good solution, but I wouldn't mind it, as it completely changes the optimal way of playing since people with overs are getting better implied odds, and you can take advantage of that if you aren't playing overs by playing tighter if they are indeed playing looser when another overs player is in the hand.

But I seem to see the opposite, that they are overly cautious about starting new games in fear of breaking an exisiting game, and seem to lean towards protecting the established game that has been going over creating a new game.  If a whole table wants to change games, it takes just 2 people to say no for it not to happen. 

Bazinga

watch more closely, it happens more often than you think.