Whats the ruling? LHE preflop Question

[that_pope]

Yesterday I was playing 8/16, and an interesting situation came up that at the time I didn't even think about.  First player in the pot with 15 chips left raised, a loose player called, and the Hero 3 bets (12 chips), folded around to the original raiser and he goes all in for 15 chips, and the loose player calls and action is on the hero.  Whats the greatest amount of action hero is allowed to take?  (mainly, is the pot considered heads up now since the player is all in)

[that_pope]

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[gregski]

I would guess you could complete his raise, capping the betting pre-flop.

[Nidociv]

Yesterday I was playing 8/16, and an interesting situation came up that at the time I didn't even think about.  First player in the pot with 15 chips left raised, a loose player called, and the Hero 3 bets (12 chips), folded around to the original raiser and he goes all in for 15 chips, and the loose player calls and action is on the hero.  Whats the greatest amount of action hero is allowed to take?  (mainly, is the pot considered heads up now since the player is all in)

How did the "first player in the pot" make it 2 bets?
What street is this?  Pre flop, post flop
That said i see the action as
$8
$16 ( +8 standard)
$24 ( +8 standard)
$30( +6 = more than half of the $8 standard raise = CAP BEFORE it gets back to HERO)
A betting round can  not be UNcapped.
Hero can only call the remaining $6

If the betting had gone:
8
16
24
27( + $3 all in , less than half of standard $ bet/raise)
HERO  cannot raise because the $3 all in does not reopen the betting.

[Nidociv]

How did the "first player in the pot" make it 2 bets?
What street is this?  Pre flop, post flop

Anyway...since i didn't really read the subject, i see now where the action was and assume the "first player in the pot" was raising the big Blind.
THAT said the Hero cannot raise as clarified in my earlier post.

[CAAZs #1 Card Slinger]

   I need to ask the CAZ poker police this one. As we know, the betting is considered capped (closed) at CAZ after three raises. Yet, heads up, there is no limit on the amount of raising allowed.  Also, a player must make a full raise if the previous raise was half of more of the original bet (3 chips = $6 = more than half of the original $8).  So the question is, does the third, all-in raise made by the original better cap the betting for the other two players?  I'm going to say that yes, it does, but I need to check the manual and with management.  Answer to come soon.............

[CAAZs #1 Card Slinger]

By the way Nidociv, is that your real picture?  Very nice!

[CAAZs #1 Card Slinger]

  :police:While we are asking, Pope, what is the deal with your name and pic?!

[Aack Thbbbt]

 I need to ask the CAZ poker police this one. As we know, the betting is considered capped (closed) at CAZ after three raises. Yet, heads up, there is no limit on the amount of raising allowed.  Also, a player must make a full raise if the previous raise was half of more of the original bet (3 chips = $6 = more than half of the original $8).  So the question is, does the third, all-in raise made by the original better cap the betting for the other two players?  I'm going to say that yes, it does, but I need to check the manual and with management.  Answer to come soon.............

If it is capped BEFORE it is down to two players the there can be no more raises for that round.
Since the all in was more than half of the necessary amount to be considered a full raise, it is capped for THAT round.
Next round the can go at it.

If for instance
player A bet 3
B went ALL IN for 5 ( enough to reopen the betting for A)  = raise
C raised to 8 ( allin in of 5 plus standard 3 raise)              =re-raise
A can raise to 11, but this is NOT a cap because player B was all in BEFORE the theoretical CAP was placed, it is merely "4 bets" and players C  and A are no longer bound by a cap.


in your scenario it goes like this:
A bets  3 
B raises  to 6
C re raises to   9
A caps ALL IN  for 11.
Betting is closed to B and C because the were still two OTHER players with live stacks in the hand when the CAP ( albeit all in ) was made.

[Aack Thbbbt]

there is a third scenario:
A bets  3
B raises  to 6
C re raises to   9
A goes ALL IN  for 10...( this $1 dollar all in does not constitute a full raise).

This leaves it open for player B to complete the bet to 12( since he is facing a full raise that he did not make),
If b just calls the 10 then player C can only call the additional dollar as well since he was the last one to place a full raise , he cannot raise( complete) himself.

[CAAZs #1 Card Slinger]

I believe you are correct Aack, this answers the question on when the betting is closed.